NYR have assigned Tony DeAngelo to Hartford

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After first waiving Adam Cracknell and now demoting Tony DeAngelo to Hartford, change has come to the New York Rangers roster.

The question is, who will be added in their place? Whether that is an imminent trade or recalls from Hartford, we will have to wait and see. DeAngelo had found himself a healthy scratch or as the team’s 7th defender on nights where they carried seven defensemen. He was being used on the powerplay, but seeing very little ice time in the games that he played. While flashes of his abilities were evident, so too were his defensive deficiencies.

What might be more telling is that these roster moves and Alain Vigneault being at the Rangers practice make it extremely unlikely that the coach won’t be given more time to try to right the ship.

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  1. I am not a fan of rushing player to the NHL but I am especially weary of letting defensemen play at the age of 21-23.. let these guys develop and solidify their game. Especially a guy who is a known question mark defensively. He was terrible in just about every game I saw him play. Should have never made the opening night roster (but I get that he did out of necessity).
    100% on board with this move.
    Josh-
    They needed Smith or Shattenkirk, and signing both was a mistake.

    I'm not sure I follow here. They are very different players. I would almost argue that if youre going to have a Shattenkirk you NEED a Smith who is much more defensively responsible (albeit I have to admit I am not a huge Smith fan so far)
    josh
    I think they were banking on a trade for a C that didn't happen. (or Thornton)
    Closer to camp, they talked about Miller being a C. Zib-Hayes-Miller-DD is good depth, just lacks a true 1C. But top 3 should all be 50+ pt guys, at minimum. And DD has been over a .5 ppg player the majority of his career.
    They got Andersson, Chytil impressed, and they were all "yeah!", then the season started and they got caught with their pants down.

    Yeah, something like that. But DD as the fourth center just isn't a fit. I think you want more of the prototypical 4th line center, who you can use as the other PK center if not the main PK center, and not worry about feeding him minutes, taking what ever production you get out of him and be happy. The Dominic Moore role.
    I think they were banking on a trade for a C that didn't happen. (or Thornton)
    Closer to camp, they talked about Miller being a C. Zib-Hayes-Miller-DD is good depth, just lacks a true 1C. But top 3 should all be 50+ pt guys, at minimum. And DD has been over a .5 ppg player the majority of his career.
    They got Andersson, Chytil impressed, and they were all "yeah!", then the season started and they got caught with their pants down.
    Giacomin
    I never thought the Rangers were dumb enough to rely on an 18 y/o to fill the gap at 2C, let alone make the team. He wasn't a top 3 or even 5 pick. And if you take the rumors seriously, that they were looking to move up to draft Cale Makar ( a dman committed to at least 1 year of college), then it is obvious that they weren't trying to replace Step with this trade, but instead reload with some young talent.
    I think when they said retool, they meant they were going to move Step and get some youth and let the chips fall where they may. In other words, get the best we could for him and not trade young talent or picks to replace him.
    Basically this meant promoting everyone and finding a gamble like Desharnais for the bottom 6. However, the Rangers failed to keep Lindberg and that opened up another hole at C. According to MacKenzie (last night) the Ranger's makeshift plan was to sign Marleau. Yet, the Ranger's offer was topped by more than the Rangers could afford.
    So, here we are. The team has a problem at center, as well as forward, since we only have 11 NHL forwards. That is currently with no injuries! Wait till we lose a forward or two.

    I really don't think the Rangers expected Chytil to fill a 2 C role at all. I think he surprised the shit out of them in preseason and they had to give him a bit more of a look.
    I figured they were depending more on the other pick to take a 4th line role and work his way up to potentially 2C status. I'm pulling this from my ass, and I don't know if that was the plan, but it sure felt like it, with Desharnias being a have up plan if it didn't work out.
    I get WHY they dealt Stepan. Heck I wanted that done a couple years ago. They waited too long and let his value slip. I'd have liked a better return on what was a dependable center. But what can you do? I feel they were a step behind in anticipating Stepans worth. It's kinda the franchises thing. Callahan, Girardii, Staal, Stepan, Lundqvist, possibly McD.
    I don't think they planned on signing Shattenkirk... then low balled him, and he accepted.
    Now, they just have too many defensemen that can't pay defense. Now, McDonagh and Skjei are inconsistent in their own end, and the whole thing is a shit show. They needed Smith or Shattenkirk, and signing both was a mistake.
    Yes they did. They had no RHD at the time. They asked for him and thought he could play the third pair since he was playing OK in zona. They had no idea if they would sign those free agents and they were backing away from Shatty anticipating the expense and term. They protected Holden cause they had to protect 3 D. If Staal did not have a NTC they would have protected the extra forward.
    I said the guy was only 22 and they had high hopes for him. Hopefully they still do. I questioned the idea that he is not going to be a bonafide NHLer, saying he is probably just not ready.
    Giacomin
    You may be right, but I think the jury is still out. Mgmt definitely thought he could come in and be an offensive Dman on the 3rd pair. Either they overrated his abilities or his readiness. Let's hope it is his readiness and the kid works hard to grow and improve. He has some nice tools.

    No they didn't. They wouldn't have signed so many Dmen if they thought that. They wouldn't have protected Holden or they would have traded him. They knew that if Holden was still available to AV, he would eventually be in the lineup. We all knew that.
    The dude just turned 22. I think they have high hopes for him.
    Fatfrancesa
    The only problem with the trade to me is that the Rangers valued deangelo. He was not just a throw in. The rangers asked for the wrong prospect from a team loaded with them. I'm not saying Keller because that was never happening but it didn't have to be deangelo

    You may be right, but I think the jury is still out. Mgmt definitely thought he could come in and be an offensive Dman on the 3rd pair. Either they overrated his abilities or his readiness. Let's hope it is his readiness and the kid works hard to grow and improve. He has some nice tools.
    The Dude
    Discouraging because the team was relying on at least one of them to have roles on this team. That's two down. Not out. Who knows what their future is. It's just not looking like it's going as planned for this season.

    I never thought the Rangers were dumb enough to rely on an 18 y/o to fill the gap at 2C, let alone make the team. He wasn't a top 3 or even 5 pick. And if you take the rumors seriously, that they were looking to move up to draft Cale Makar ( a dman committed to at least 1 year of college), then it is obvious that they weren't trying to replace Step with this trade, but instead reload with some young talent.
    I think when they said retool, they meant they were going to move Step and get some youth and let the chips fall where they may. In other words, get the best we could for him and not trade young talent or picks to replace him.
    Basically this meant promoting everyone and finding a gamble like Desharnais for the bottom 6. However, the Rangers failed to keep Lindberg and that opened up another hole at C. According to MacKenzie (last night) the Ranger's makeshift plan was to sign Marleau. Yet, the Ranger's offer was topped by more than the Rangers could afford.
    So, here we are. The team has a problem at center, as well as forward, since we only have 11 NHL forwards. That is currently with no injuries! Wait till we lose a forward or two.
    Future
    Ok, but what does he have to learn from Shatty?
    DeAngelo already knows how to QB a powerplay and suck in his own end, and he's a better skater. DeAngelo needs to learn the defensive side of the game, and I don't think KS is the guy to teach that.

    Hopefully we 99.9% rely on the quality new coaching staff (I've heard good things) in Hartford to make him a better all-around player. Player development should be huge and Job #1 in Hartford. That's the place for kids to work on all aspects of their game.
    Phil in Absentia
    I don't think that's a terrible comparison for what he can be.
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    Ok, but what does he have to learn from Shatty?
    DeAngelo already knows how to QB a powerplay and suck in his own end, and he's a better skater. DeAngelo needs to learn the defensive side of the game, and I don't think KS is the guy to teach that.
    Long live the King
    DeAngelo turned 22 today, and Andersson has been 19 for 11 days. It's not discouraging at all.

    Discouraging because the team was relying on at least one of them to have roles on this team. That's two down. Not out. Who knows what their future is. It's just not looking like it's going as planned for this season.
    josh
    I would like to see him learn from Shattenkirk... but we don't have the defensive corps to allow that to happen, right now.

    Learn what?
    The only problem with the trade to me is that the Rangers valued deangelo. He was not just a throw in. The rangers asked for the wrong prospect from a team loaded with them. I'm not saying Keller because that was never happening but it didn't have to be deangelo
    Blue Heaven
    I dont think it can be questionable when their probably wasnt a market for Stepan that the Rangers were hoping for. Rangers had to get what they could for Step.

    This. Every other team would see the same risk with Stepan's contract that the Rangers did. Only a team that could weather the cap implications and needed the leadership he would bring in a rebuilding effort likely saw value in him. The return wasn't bad when you consider this wasn't just a trade of a valuable player but also somewhat of a salary dump at the same time.
    Giacomin
    Trading Step was right minded. The return is questionable.

    I still feel mgmt and the draft team thought they'd be able to parlay the trade into Cale Makar. At first, they may have a had the small hope that he'd be available at 7 and there were certainly rumors that the Rangers were talking to teams in front of them to move up.

    I dont think it can be questionable when their probably wasnt a market for Stepan that the Rangers were hoping for. Rangers had to get what they could for Step.