Rangers Recall D John Gilmour

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With Brendan Smith officially re-assigned to the Hartford Wolf Pack, New York Rangers general manager Jeff Gorton has recalled defenseman John Gilmour from the Hartford Wolf Pack this morning:

The 24-year old was signed to a two-year entry-level contract in August of 2016, and has been one of the Pack’s most reliable players this season. With 6 goals and 26 points in 44 games, he’s fourth in team scoring. His production even earned him an AHL All-Star Game appearance this past January.

With the Blueshirts, Gilmour will join his fellow Wolf Pack teammate Neal Pionk, who was also recalled just yesterday.

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by The Dude
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    Do we want to put these kids out there with this bummed roster and this coach?

    If McD is out, this gives AV a chance to play Holden 60 minutes.



    Yep. Kids can't be any worse. it's not about winning, it's about evaluating. They know that.
    Do we want to put these kids out there with this bummed roster and this coach?

    If McD is out, this gives AV a chance to play Holden 60 minutes.
    The Rangers have announced that defenseman John Gilmour has been called up from Hartford.

    Gilmour, 24, was an AHL all-star this past season and won the fastest skater competition with a time of "13.663 seconds, which is the fourth-fastest time in the event's history." (NYR Press Release)

    He has 26 points in 44 games this season and in his two-year AHL career, he has 12 goals and 39 assists in 120 games.

    "Prior to beginning his professional career, Gilmour played four seasons of collegiate hockey at Providence College (2012-13 - 2015-16), and he helped Providence win the National Championship in 2014-15." (NYR Press Release)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Respecttheblue
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    "Help them adjust to the speed of the game."
    — That's always a huge hurdle.
    better sooner than later

    "Get the keepers more experience for next year."
    — I wonder if any of Gilmour and Pionk are "keepers." I really hope so. But these days I have little faith in this org not to skip developing prospects and take the "safe way" mediocre path into next season by bringing in more Kampfer-types. But who knows, maybe even that route has had its day; maybe we'll see a more committed rebuild. But keep some guys who are good to show them the way, and who will still be young enough by the time the team turns around. That is if they even want to stay.

    "Get a real jump on evaluations."
    One can only hope they really do. It's difficult, because of reason 1 above. They have to adjust to the speed of the game first.



    No better way to find out what they are made of then throwing in during the playoff stretch and see how they respond. These are not our 18 y/o 1st round picks. These are kids who have been building for this moment. A chance to play in the NHL. A chance to play so well you stay in the NHL.

    They'll have to adjust to the speed and talent, but better now than later. Yet, for some of these guys it is not the mistakes they make, but what they flash. Learning from their mistakes is important, but are they growing and improving. Adjusting and producing. Later we can find out if they can be consistent.
    I'm actually going to enjoy watching these kids grow up! The hell with it...I hope they win this one!! ...even in spite of Mr Softy back there!





    Quote Originally Posted by Respecttheblue
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    "Get the keepers more experience for next year."
    — I wonder if any of Gilmour and Pionk are "keepers." I really hope so. But these days I have little faith in this org not to skip developing prospects and take the "safe way" mediocre path into next season by bringing in more Kampfer-types.



    I think moving away from the Kampfers is exactly what that press conference was all about. You keep a guy like Kampfer, even if he's got a low ceiling, over a young player to remove variance. When you're not contending, that doesn't really matter.





    Quote Originally Posted by Giacomin
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    Hell yeah. Anything is more fun than the shit we saw against Boston. Toronto could have been just as bad, but I was distracted scouting the Leaf kids. They were fun to watch.

    Fun is just one part of the equation. Let's be a little pragmatic and give these older AHL kids some burn up here. See what they got. Help them adjust to the speed of the game. Get the keepers more experience for next year. Get a real jump on evaluations.



    "Help them adjust to the speed of the game."
    — That's always a huge hurdle.
    better sooner than later

    "Get the keepers more experience for next year."
    — I wonder if any of Gilmour and Pionk are "keepers." I really hope so. But these days I have little faith in this org not to skip developing prospects and take the "safe way" mediocre path into next season by bringing in more Kampfer-types. But who knows, maybe even that route has had its day; maybe we'll see a more committed rebuild. But keep some guys who are good to show them the way, and who will still be young enough by the time the team turns around. That is if they even want to stay.

    "Get a real jump on evaluations."
    One can only hope they really do. It's difficult, because of reason 1 above. They have to adjust to the speed of the game first.





    Quote Originally Posted by Future
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    It's fun to watch rookies try to make plays and fuck up a few times along the way.

    It's not fun to watch 30 year olds play safe hockey and still fuck up all the time.



    Hell yeah. Anything is more fun than the shit we saw against Boston. Toronto could have been just as bad, but I was distracted scouting the Leaf kids. They were fun to watch.

    Fun is just one part of the equation. Let's be a little pragmatic and give these older AHL kids some burn up here. See what they got. Help them adjust to the speed of the game. Get the keepers more experience for next year. Get a real jump on evaluations.





    Quote Originally Posted by Phil in Absentia
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    Gilmour can fly, so yes, fun. Better than watching Staal or Kampfer crawl up the ice with walkers.


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    @NYRStatsInfo: John Gilmour is tied for seventh among AHL defensemen in assists (20) and points (26) this season. He won the Fastest Skater title during the AHL All-Star Skills Competition with a time of 13.663 seconds, which was the fourth-fastest time in the event's history. #NYR
    I don't see it as fun either more of a different kind of clown show with some character changes. I think what this will prove out over time is there's virtually no depth of any quality down there to lean on especially at this time. Is it necessary - yeah, but it's not gonna be fun or pretty. Just a different kind of stink in the air.
    It's fun to watch rookies try to make plays and fuck up a few times along the way.

    It's not fun to watch 30 year olds play safe hockey and still fuck up all the time.





    Quote Originally Posted by josh
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    "Fun"?


    Theyll look worse than Shattenkirk Smith Holden



    Paid less, too.

    With theoretically more potential than an injured d-man and his boneheaded friend.

    It'll be "fun" to see what happens. What hasn't been "fun" has been watching this ship slowly sink for the past 2 months.
    DeAngelo, Gilmour, Pionk all in the lineup will be fun to watch, assuming that's what NYR does.

    This has to also mean that Holden, at least, is on his way out the door.

    Edit: take that back, looking like Staal is going to IR.

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